Showing posts with label bob hamer. Show all posts
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Tuesday, July 19, 2011

Operation Smoking Dragon, Part 2

Part II: An Undercover Agent Tells His Story

Operation Smoking Dragon and a related case led to the indictment of 87 individuals and dismantled an international smuggling ring that brought illegal drugs, cigarettes, and counterfeit currency into the country—and conspired to bring in Chinese-made weapons as well.

Retired undercover agent Bob Hamer worked undercover on Operation Smoking Dragon and was instrumental in the investigation’s success. During his 26-year career with the Bureau, Hamer specialized in covert work, posing as a drug dealer, screenwriter, friend of the Mafia, even a pedophile. Below, he talks about Operation Smoking Dragon and his work undercover.

Q: How did you get involved with Smoking Dragon?

Mr. Hamer: The case agent was looking for an undercover agent to help target an Asian organized crime group, and he contacted me. I met with the agent and his informant. The informant liked me and set up a meeting with the person we believed was the largest importer of counterfeit cigarettes on the West Coast. And that was it. I was in.

Q: How did you convince the target that you could be trusted?

Mr. Hamer: My story was that I had inherited my grandfather’s trust and that I was a savvy investor. More importantly, I had a warehouse where they could store the cigarettes, and I had access to long-haul truck drivers and some contacts at the port that might be able to help them get their shipping containers into the country. The bad guys bought it.

Q: How was Smoking Dragon different from other undercover cases you worked?

Mr. Hamer: Most of my undercover assignments were pretty straightforward investigations, from point A to point B. Smoking Dragon was one of those cases that started at A and went all over the alphabet. We assumed it was just going to be about cigarettes. We never thought it would expand to surface-to-air missiles or counterfeit currency—the Supernotes. We didn’t think drugs would be involved or other counterfeit goods.

Q: You started on the case in 2002 and worked it until indictments were handed down in 2005. Was this the longest undercover assignment you had?

Mr. Hamer: Yes. I was undercover on Smoking Dragon for almost three years. As the case progressed beyond the initial target, I was dealing with one target or another almost on a daily basis. I think we added it up once that I had over 1,000 separate conversations during those three years with all the various targets. It was a full-time assignment, although I was working two other undercover operations at the same time.

Q: Why was this case so important?

Mr. Hamer: I considered one of the targets to be the most dangerous man in America. Whatever we wanted, whatever we brought up, he was capable of getting. He brought us the weapons deal, the Supernotes deal. He was doing cigarettes, Ecstasy. He was talking about setting up a crystal meth lab. This guy could put you together with anybody to make any deal. He said he could get us any weapons—anything but nuclear weapons—and I think he could have. Whatever China had, this guy was capable of getting. To me he was dangerous, not in the sense that he could kill you with his bare hands, but because of his connections. He was a broker for everything.

Q: How did you get started doing undercover work?

Mr. Hamer: I reported to my first FBI office in San Diego in September 1979, and within six months I assumed my first undercover role. I always thought it would be exciting to be part of an undercover investigation. We were doing an organized crime case, and I volunteered to go undercover. An informant introduced me to his colleague who would become our target. That very first meeting my knees were shaking so much—not from fear but from adrenaline—I prayed nobody would notice. I met the target, and we hit it off. I came away with an adrenaline high that lasted for the rest of my career. I loved the work and did 20 separate undercover assignments in all, some of which lasted a day or two and some that ran for years.

Q: What does it take to be good at undercover work?

Mr. Hamer: You have to build a story that you believe and that you can sell. You have to love the work and believe in yourself. You’ve got to be quick on your feet, but you can’t dominate the conversation. You have to know who you are both in the real world and the undercover world, because you are on a high wire without a net. In Hollywood you get a chance to say your lines again if you make a mistake. There are no retakes in the real world. If you make a mistake on the street, you might blow the case or risk getting yourself killed.

Q: Do you develop an emotional connection to the people you are investigating?

Mr. Hamer: That’s an issue, but it comes back to knowing who the real you is. You have to be one of the bad guys without becoming one of them. There is a line you can’t cross. You have to walk up to that line, but you can’t go over it.

Q: You retired at age 56, one year after the Smoking Dragon indictments were announced and one year before agents are required to retire. Do you miss the undercover life?

Mr. Hamer: Smoking Dragon was one of the biggest cases I worked. With only one year to go before mandatory retirement, I didn’t think I could top Smoking Dragon, so I retired. I do miss the work. I miss the adrenaline rush of being undercover, but not to the point that I would go work for some private detective agency. If the FBI called me back, yeah, I would love it. I had 26 great years in the FBI.

Wednesday, May 06, 2009

Fed Undercover - Contract Killer; Weapons Dealer; Pedophile

On May 15, 2009, Conversations with Heroes at the Watering Hole will feature a discussion Special Agent Bob Hamer, FBI (ret.) on his career as an undercover federal agent.

Program Date: May 15, 2009
Program Time: 2100 hours, Pacific
Topic: Fed Undercover - Contract Killer; Weapons Dealer; Pedophile
Listen Live:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LawEnforcement/2009/05/16/Fed-Undercover-Contract-Killer-Weapons-Dealer-Pedophile

About the Guest
Special Agent
Bob Hamer, Federal Bureau of Investigation (ret.) spent 26 years as a “street agent” for the FBI; many of those years undercover. As an uncover agent he posed as a drug dealer, contract killer, fence, pedophile, degenerate gambler, weapons dealer, and white-collar criminal.

Bob Hamer worked undercover against such diverse groups as La Cosa Nostra, the Sicilian Mafia, Mexican Mafia, Russian Mafia, Asian organized crime groups, and Los Angeles-based street gangs. His successful infiltration of NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) resulted in the arrest of what one defendant called eight members of the “inner circle.” He received numerous awards throughout his career including the FBI Director’s Award for Distinguished Service, four United States Attorney Awards for Distinguished Service, and numerous letters of commendation including one from then U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani. Bob Hamer is the author of The Last Undercover: The True Story of an FBI Agent’s Dangerous Dance with Evil.

According to the book description of The Last Undercover: The True Story of an FBI Agent’s Dangerous Dance with Evil, “
Bob Hamer tells the story of his life as an undercover agent for the FBI posing as everything from a drug dealer to an aging pedophile. Looking back on a career rich in the kind of action that makes for great cinema, Hamer describes the challenges he endured as he stared the dark side of humanity in the face.”

About the Watering Hole
The Watering Hole is
police slang for a location cops go off-duty to blow off steam and talk about work and life. Sometimes funny; sometimes serious; but, always interesting.

About the Host
Lieutenant Raymond E. Foster was a sworn member of the
Los Angeles Police Department for 24 years. He retired in 2003 at the rank of Lieutenant. He holds a bachelor’s from the Union Institute and University in Criminal Justice Management and a Master’s Degree in Public Financial Management from California State University, Fullerton; and, has completed his doctoral course work. Raymond E. Foster has been a part-time lecturer at California State University, Fullerton and Fresno; and is currently a Criminal Justice Department chair, faculty advisor and lecturer with the Union Institute and University. He has experience teaching upper division courses in Law Enforcement, public policy, Law Enforcement Technology and leadership. Raymond is an experienced author who has published numerous articles in a wide range of venues including magazines such as Government Technology, Mobile Government, Airborne Law Enforcement Magazine, and Police One. He has appeared on the History Channel and radio programs in the United States and Europe as subject matter expert in technological applications in Law Enforcement.

Listen, call, join us at the Watering Hole:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LawEnforcement/2009/05/16/Fed-Undercover-Contract-Killer-Weapons-Dealer-Pedophile

Program Contact Information
Lieutenant Raymond E. Foster, LAPD (ret.), MPA
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909.599.7530